the cover article is "the bible-is it really god's inspired word?"..
this has got to be a new low in watchtower superficiality.
how do we know that isaiah and daniel were authentic despite the claims of critics?.
I have to agree that the reasoning is fallacious but not strictly circular. It was a poor choice of words, nothing more, and it doesn't diminish the fact that it's a fallacy.
Using Paul or Jesus to support Daniel/Isaiah would be like Neil Gaiman claiming Dickens' "A Tale of Two Cities" was a true story. It isn't circular reasoning but it is incredibly unsound.
i understand that only the twenty million jws will survive this imminent armageddon.
since the worlds population is about seven billion, this means that each jw man, woman and youth will be left to locate and bury 350 corpses killed at armageddon.. .
these survivors will spend the rest of the following one thousand years teaching the wtss kingdom to resurrected people who previously never had the opportunity.
I guess my point is that the 1,000 years are going to suck royally ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN DOCTRINE but most don't even realize it. The 'fact' is placed on the shelf with the rest of the cognitive dissonance.
reading tmj4477's thread about religion after jw's and reading perry trying to counter ak-jeff on a thread about god and suffering, both of these made me want to post some eastern thought that doesn't fall into the category of "religious" but might help nonetheless.. .
excerpt from the wisdom of no escape (with subtitle: and the path of loving-kindness).
chapter 8: no such thing as a true storyin taoism there's a famous saying that goes, "the tao that can be spoken is not the ultimate tao.
Good stuff. Thanks for posting it!
i understand that only the twenty million jws will survive this imminent armageddon.
since the worlds population is about seven billion, this means that each jw man, woman and youth will be left to locate and bury 350 corpses killed at armageddon.. .
these survivors will spend the rest of the following one thousand years teaching the wtss kingdom to resurrected people who previously never had the opportunity.
Putting numbers on it destroys the entire concept.
Something the average rank and file JW puts on the "don't ask, don't tell" shelf in their mind is this: The 1,000 years are NOT the promised paradise. The paradise doesn't come until after the final test when somehow, (don't ask this, either), Satan has managed to influence billions (they are described as like the sands of the seashore surrounding God's people) AGAIN into persecuting the good guys during a final period of testing. THEN, he and the baddies will be destroyed for good and the uber-Dubs will be able to live in paradise.
The 1,000 year conversion work is going to occur and yet result in a world full of opposers. The preching work is destined to fail then just like it fails now. It's in the Revelation book. It's published doctrine. But you couldn't find one JW in 500 who would tell you this when describing the 1,000 year reign of Christ because it looks suspiciously like two Armageddons, which is not a part (officially) of the WT doctrine.
Long story short, the WT doctrine on the Millennium and Armageddon and all that crap is a convoluted mess that even the most devout JW doesn't understand.
this scam just keeps getting more and more exposed.. .
article below:.
http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/158214.
Like the borg, the Global Warming supporters in government are merely seeking more control over the proles.
Here's a news flash for everyone: CLIMATE CHANGES AND ALWAYS WILL.
If we were sure the temperature was going to go up, and we're not, rather than hubristically trying to control the environment with more regulations and more taxes, it would be FAR more prudent to simply learn how to adapt. Live has adapted on this planet for millions of years' worth of climate change and not once to our knowledge has any generation (that's an overlapping set of generations of people to you noobs) succeeded in remaining the same while changing the climate to suit themselves.
It's not just hubris, it's idiotic.
as ray says in the last chapter of coc, before 1981 da was quite different from df.
"persons who resigned were not treated the same as those disfellowshiped", they were not shunned for example, except when the dad person enters into politics or military.. i put it on account of humbleness that ray says he doesn't think they changed the policy just to use it against him, he probably feels he wasn't so significant as to warrant such a far-reaching change.
but it seems way too convenient that the policy change came at that exact time, too much of a coincidence.
Like every goofy decision those clowns make, it was multipurpose.
It was a way to get at Ray Franz and a way to tighten their grip over the rank and file.
hey everyone!.
i will be going into the hospital for surgery on tues...my first one ever!
the surgeon has gone over the procedure and informed me that it's 'bloody' and so she gave me all my options.
Ditto to all the good advice and encouragement given so far.
If you trust your current set of doctors, go to the hospital THEY recommend, nowhere else. Tell your parents you informed them because you thought they should know, not because you were seeking their medical advice. And definitely give a legal power of attorney to someone you can trust to save your life rather than let you die over a misinterpretation of a Bible verse.
Hope to see you here and healthy in the weeks to come. We're with you!
other religions have hallal and kosher foods since the koran and old testament tell them to "abstain from eating blood.
" these foods are 100% certain to have been bled.
witnesses who think this law is so important don't ever check if their meat is bled, they just asume it is so.
Most JWs have a "don't ask, don't tell" attitude toward the entire topic. As long as they don't willingly and intentionally take blood by eating or transfusion, it's all good.
again..please do not ask for a pdf scan as the only copies i have are the interbranch electronic copies from the us branch to our local branch.. .
november 3, 2009 .
to all bodies of elders .
The entire thing is demeaning and insulting. The inactive one has something wrong with him/her. Something that a Bible study (WTH, are you kidding?) could help solve.
so looking at the worldwide report , the baptisms are down , many countries are 0 growth ,publishers, hours , and studies up because of changes in reporting methods .
but just how long can the propping up of numbers happen for , before the real downward slide starts ?
a year or two tops , which will be real close to 2014 .
I think they know they're in for a difficult time over the next decade and are preparing for it by weeding out those who might make waves from within. Over the next several years, sure, they're going to lose their best and brightest members, but they're going to come out on the other side of it with only the most indoctrinated and worshipful sheep possible, and that's what they want.
The numbers are just used for ego-propping; they aren't really as important as whether the rank & file are unquestioningly loyal.
So what if by 2015 the total publisher number slips down below 7 million? They don't care, because the ones leaving weren't true borg.
